Speechless In A Case Of EOTRH In A Horse ( Moved to community.thehorsesadvocate.com )
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Still as potent as the first read! Thanks Doc T.
I had never heard of EOTRH until Doc T started blogging about it. I was sickened and saddened for this young horse. I have several friends that still compete their horses at that age. I took Doc’s advise years ago and took all grain out of my horses’ diets. I tried (unsuccessfully) to get some of the supplement manufactures to use anything except grain products in their formulas, so no supplements for the horses. Progressive Nutrition had an outstanding ration balance that supplied the protein the horses needed, and was a suggestion from Doc T. I actually read the list of ingredients before I purchased it – no grain products and soy bean meal was the first ingredient. Then Nutrena bought Progressive and if it hadn’t been for Doc T pointing out the ingredients had been dramatically changed I wouldn’t have known. How many of us read the ingredients list every time we buy something? Whether it for our horses or our families, we trust that things are the same. I stopped feeding the ration balance immediately. It took me years to find someone locally that I could get soybean meal ordered. I’ve asked DocT many questions related to horse injuries because I know he will tell me the truth and offer what’s best for the horse. He has no hidden agenda.
Thanks Debbi for your kind words and always looking out for your horses. It is so true what you say that if you don’t pay attention people / businesses will try to slip one past you. Thank you for your trust. Bet to you and Ray
I feel so sorry for that young horse 🙁
My horse is 34. My biggest regret is having a young, new equine dentist come out when he was 29 with no issues to ” just have his teeth floated like a good horse parent” and she used an electric tool and must have filed most of his teeth off because as soon as she left, he could never eat hay again!! It just wads up and falls out. I took a perfect healthy horse and had his teeth destroyed. He has since been eating soaked cubes, grass pellets, brewers yeast, and dehulled soybean meal and looks great by mostly following Doc T’s suggestions. Thank you Doc T!! We appreciate all that you do!!
Unfortunately this is a common story reported to us every year.
This is a cautionary tale about the dangers of confusing advertising for information. Horses somehow managed to survive for centuries without grain-based diets because of the ability to assimilate forages. The marketers of specialized feeds have brought a number of veterinarians into their “racket” and it has nothing to do with the health of the horse and everything to do with the bottom line $. Your horse needs you and not slick advertising.
Well said Kirsten.
So sorry for this horse and owner. My limited knowledge would make it difficult to go against my vet’s recommendation, only to discover in hindsight it was not the right thing to do.
Just as an aside, Doc T, for purposes of comparison, would you be able to post a picture of what a “normal” mouth would look like?
Glad to read others’ positive comments about their horses who are on a proper diet. So far so good for my guys.
P.S. Love your color-coded label. That is soooo helpful!
-In a later post you wrote: Sorry…never mind! I found a pic on the internet. I now see the difference. Thanks!
The toughest thing we all do is trust and then have that trust challenged or proven unwarranted or even wrong. All of us….
Glad you liked the colors – it really makes the info pop! Also glad you found some normal looking incisors.
I feel for that horse. I would have had a hard time zipping my mouth.
I thank you every day for showing me the path to better feeding of my horses. I am so grateful to have learned this lesson soon enough to make a positive difference for them for the rest of their natural lives.
I had never heard of EOTH until now; but, it certainly reminds me of what used to be called “Trench Mouth”, in humans. That, I am quite familiar with, having developed it in boarding school caused by my big stress in my senior year due to the loss of my best friend in a commercial jet crash and prescribed amphetamines for diet pills. My home dentist stabilized it with massive doses of vitamins B & C; but, over the next 30 years successive dentists and periodontists had me try various things but nothing really worked …. until a periodontist who did DNA testing and targeted the mouth bacteria with antibiotics before cleaning. Things have been great for about 15 years,now. All of which makes me think you are right about the feed. Just guessing.
Mine get only grass and hay and water. Thanks to Doc T. They look great.
Geoff-I’m afraid I have no words. Just sad for that young horse. Please stay well.
Mary
This is the reason I found Dr Tucker. My horse has advanced EOTRH and a couple of vets told me they need to pull the teeth. I was pretty shocked because I thought they meant all of them. I asked how will he eat. ? Oh it won’t be a problem . I took this horse in because I wanted him away from his traumatized life so I was not going to pull his teeth without a lot of research. So enters Doc T. He did declare my horse years older than I was told but he is a feisty healthy boy missing a couple of teeth that Doc pulled with his hand. So far he is still eating grass ,soft hay and his pellets. If I had been the owner of the horse above that horse would still have his teeth. Very sad on the owner and the vet’s part. We are these horses keepers and need to put effort into knowing as much as we can about their welfare and always put the horse ‘s welfare first !